, $6.9 trillion from ryan. he's in effect proposing a 40% cut in everything from education to transportation. as i said, big bird and a lot of veterans on food stamps and all that. >> by the way, that's not going to happen. >> that's not going to happen. >> it's a huge number. >> 12% of the budget, that's what both sides -- we're not going to touch medicare. we're not going to touch social security. you know, all the presidential candidates say that. they say we're going to cut from this 12%. that's not going to happen. carl, you wanted to have a word on defense and then we need to go to stephanie cutter. >> i think it's a question of romney's expediency. it's like being soft on communism. let's say to democrats who are soft on the military, soft on america's role in the world, so let's raise the military budget. i think the big problem that romney has is that he appears to be expedient, less than truthful about his record in the past, and this, again, is being flexible, well, is he being flexible, or is he bei